Where do the Lib Dems really stand on gay marriage? Recently, Simon Hughes spoke to this issue in a video interview with Yoosk. It was then widely reported - e.g. by gay media outlet Pink News - that Hughes had indicated that gay marriage will happen in this parliament.
However, that is a rather optimistic assessment of what Hughes actually said. Indeed, Hughes actually dampened expectations that gay marriage would be adopted as a matter of Lib Dem party policy, let alone coalition policy.
Hughes' full answer on gay marriage can be seen here:
Notice that the only concrete step towards gay marriage mentioned by Hughes is a 'consultation' by the coalition government, which had anyway already been previously promised by Lynne Featherstone. Whether or not gay marriage ever sees the light of day depends, then, on how the consultation is handled by the coalition, and what its outcome is. Hughes doesn't venture a guess on that - indeed, he says that he doesn't know what the outcome of discussions over gay marriage will be even within the Liberal Democrat party. So, whilst he has some warm words to say for gay marriage, and speculates that we 'should' be able to get it in this parliament, he is certainly not committing to anything beyond the consultation as yet.
Moreover, Hughes implies that he would rather gay marriage were not adopted as a matter of whipped, Lib Dem policy, but were instead put forward as a mere free conscience vote. He says:
I think that every Liberal Democrat MP will be free to come to their own decision. I don't think this will be a whipped vote matter, because there are matters of conscience around these issues, and I am keen that we don't say every single item is a matter of party policy.
Now, at the beginning of this year, Nick Clegg announced that he was a supporter of full gay marriage. So it was a matter of considerable disappointment when the issue was omitted from the Liberal Democrats' 2010 manifesto. At the time, the explanation for this was that there had not been time to debate gay marriage at the Lib Dems' Federal Conference. Pink News was told that, eventually, gay marriage would be debated, and would be adopted as a policy commitment.*
Hughes' comments now suggest that he thinks a pro-position on gay marriage will not become a matter of Lib Dem policy at all. To be sure, that does not mean it will not happen. And gay marriage could still pass on a free vote, even if Lib Dem MPs were not whipped into supporting it.
Nonetheless, though, the Lib Dem position on gay marriage is a good deal more ambiguous than some reports suggest. There is certainly no call for Lib Dem Voice to run the details of Hughes' interview beneath the headline: 'Simon Hughes: Coalition Government will legislate to allow gay marriage'.
*A small update: as commenter Jae tells me, gay marriage is now on the agenda for the Lib Dem Federal Conference this autumn (see Jae's own post on it here). That is positive, but still leaves us with a situation in which (headlines in Pink News and Lib Dem Voice to the contrary notwithstanding) the Lib Dem Deputy Leader has said that, in his opinion, gay marriage will not (and perhaps should not) become a matter of whipped party policy.
*A small update: as commenter Jae tells me, gay marriage is now on the agenda for the Lib Dem Federal Conference this autumn (see Jae's own post on it here). That is positive, but still leaves us with a situation in which (headlines in Pink News and Lib Dem Voice to the contrary notwithstanding) the Lib Dem Deputy Leader has said that, in his opinion, gay marriage will not (and perhaps should not) become a matter of whipped party policy.
I agree with your concerns about the ambiguity of the reporting on that video, and mention that both in comments on Lib Dem Voice and my own blog.
ReplyDeleteHowever there is some progress in that the LGBT Lib Dem group Delga's "Marriage Without Borders" policy suggestion (i.e. equal marriage) has now been confirmed as being up for debate at this year's Conference, and should, given what Lib Dems are like, become official party policy going forward.
Report here: http://jaekaygoesforth.blogspot.com/2010/07/federal-conference-to-debate-marriage.html
Pink News is invaluable, but also acts as a shill for the ConDem coalition.
ReplyDeleteI think PinkNews has a pro-coalition bias. It is only fair for me to say that I am a Labour party member.
ReplyDeleteHowever the reporting of the gay marriage issue is a case in point. Every scrap that comes from the Lib Dem coalition is interpreted very positively by PinkNews. As if we should be grateful.
What is required now from LGBT publications is a change in attitude about this.
The coalition has had long enough I think to keep spinning yarns. Lynn Featherstone tells us that 'stakeholders' are being consulted. Prior to the London pride event Nick Clegg tells us he is 'pushing' for gay marriage equality.
Well, the coalition has a massive majority in the House of Commons and the House of Lords.
Both parties in the Coalition waved the possibility of equality for gay marriage prior to the election when they wanted LGBT votes.
So, I think that it is time now for the coalition to tell us plainly whether they intend to bring equality for gay marriage or not.
We are seeing the 'free schools' policy, a massive gift to the right wing of the Conservative party put through parliament at great speed, not much room for consulting 'stakeholders' there.
@Jae: thanks for that, I've added an update to the bottom of the post accordingly.
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